I missed Governor Ducey's tele-town hall on education February 5. A number of Tucson area people were called about the event, which featured Ducey and Lisa Graham Keegan, former AZ Superintendent of Education and a member of Ducey's education transition team. But Ann-Eve Pedersen, my cohost on Education: The Rest of the Story, listened in and was able to ask a question. She talks about Ducey and Keegan's efforts to push the idea of charters taking over empty district schools and classrooms and their misleading answer to her question about who owns a charter school building and property when the school closes.